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		<title>By: Carla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally think this Twittering in churches has gone too far, it&#039;s just too much information that can take up too much of your day.   We were recently contacted with what we thought was a better alternative to Twitter by a company in Phoenix, AZ that is called MCJC Ventures, LLC.  They offer and provide an existing &quot;texting&quot; platform to get one daily text message out to our church&#039;s donors and members.  I called the company back (480) 236-9272 and asked them about it, they gladly sent me some information on it.  I asked them if they have any churches currently using their texting platform and they told me Creflo Dollar Ministries and Jamal Bryant Ministries  (but mainly megachurches in the Phoenix area) that have been using it for some time now.  They charge each donor or &quot;subscriber&quot; as he put it $4.99/mo. to get a daily custom text message directly from the church (news, events, etc.) and the church gets a good portion of that back in donation revenue.  He said many churches are dumping Twitter for this platform because they can control the daily message much better than on Twitter AND drive revenue back to them.  Could this be the new technology to increase a church&#039;s revenues?  Probably.   Anyone else heard about this?
Carla</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally think this Twittering in churches has gone too far, it&#8217;s just too much information that can take up too much of your day.   We were recently contacted with what we thought was a better alternative to Twitter by a company in Phoenix, AZ that is called MCJC Ventures, LLC.  They offer and provide an existing &#8220;texting&#8221; platform to get one daily text message out to our church&#8217;s donors and members.  I called the company back (480) 236-9272 and asked them about it, they gladly sent me some information on it.  I asked them if they have any churches currently using their texting platform and they told me Creflo Dollar Ministries and Jamal Bryant Ministries  (but mainly megachurches in the Phoenix area) that have been using it for some time now.  They charge each donor or &#8220;subscriber&#8221; as he put it $4.99/mo. to get a daily custom text message directly from the church (news, events, etc.) and the church gets a good portion of that back in donation revenue.  He said many churches are dumping Twitter for this platform because they can control the daily message much better than on Twitter AND drive revenue back to them.  Could this be the new technology to increase a church&#8217;s revenues?  Probably.   Anyone else heard about this?<br />
Carla</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
		<link>http://www.gabetaviano.com/technology/twitter-in-church/comment-page-1/#comment-3287</link>
		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just think that as an overall observation of young people today, my 20-something generation included, we have a lack of respect for others, whether that be authority figures or just our &#039;neighbors&#039; around us.  

I&#039;ve been reading 1 Corinthians lately, and again am just SO struck by Paul&#039;s constant attitude of unselfish sacrifice- he would choose to give up ANYTHING if it meant he would offend or distract ANYONE else.  His constant motivation is the edification of the church of God, and the example He can be of Christ&#039;s love to unbelievers.  

Just because something is culturally acceptable or generationally popular doesn&#039;t mean that it&#039;s RIGHT.  When our attitude is all about us, and what our &#039;rights&#039; are, we are missing the point of Christianity.  This is what should we should be showing by our example and teaching to our young people.  

As for the rest of the week being part of church, that did not even enter into my argument - we should worship all week long, yes, but not all week long are we in a situation where it is disrespectful to be texting while someone else is talking/singing, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just think that as an overall observation of young people today, my 20-something generation included, we have a lack of respect for others, whether that be authority figures or just our &#8216;neighbors&#8217; around us.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been reading 1 Corinthians lately, and again am just SO struck by Paul&#8217;s constant attitude of unselfish sacrifice- he would choose to give up ANYTHING if it meant he would offend or distract ANYONE else.  His constant motivation is the edification of the church of God, and the example He can be of Christ&#8217;s love to unbelievers.  </p>
<p>Just because something is culturally acceptable or generationally popular doesn&#8217;t mean that it&#8217;s RIGHT.  When our attitude is all about us, and what our &#8216;rights&#8217; are, we are missing the point of Christianity.  This is what should we should be showing by our example and teaching to our young people.  </p>
<p>As for the rest of the week being part of church, that did not even enter into my argument &#8211; we should worship all week long, yes, but not all week long are we in a situation where it is disrespectful to be texting while someone else is talking/singing, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: ARJWright</title>
		<link>http://www.gabetaviano.com/technology/twitter-in-church/comment-page-1/#comment-3286</link>
		<dc:creator>ARJWright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That first part of that first sentence should say:

&quot;Teaching what is appropriate and not is a cultural and social function of technology...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That first part of that first sentence should say:</p>
<p>&#8220;Teaching what is appropriate and not is a cultural and social function of technology&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ARJWright</title>
		<link>http://www.gabetaviano.com/technology/twitter-in-church/comment-page-1/#comment-3285</link>
		<dc:creator>ARJWright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teaching what is appropriate and not is a cultural and social function; this should be something that is done independent of the technology trends, and at the same time it should mind those trends and give wisdom where needed.

Simply saying that &quot;because a pastor is preaching doesn&#039;t mean you should be texting and tweeting&quot; is not a remedy for the issue - that is, you are only addressing symptoms of a greater thought that most likely wasn&#039;t taught. Namely: ethics (re: Proverbs and Ecc.).

It is only after teaching these ethical issues of social, technology, and culture that one can sit and make the rules that others suppose should be the case of this digitally native and very social generation. I&#039;m sorry folks, but most of you commenting are more like myself where you sit as a late Gen X or early Gen Y-er; you aren&#039;t native to this way of communitating and therefore your &quot;rules&quot; and &quot;perceptions&quot; will cause more problems than they solve.

To those peeved that people can text better than they can recite books and doctrine, do a better job discipling and then maybe you won&#039;t have the tech issue to harp on as loudly. And yes, I very much practice what I preach - Gabe can totally vouch for that much.

Lastly, I too am of the opinion that &quot;church&quot; is what happens in-between the Sunday worship gatherings. That the active acts of creating community with people in and outside of the Christian faith should be what defines church. If this action is spilling over into our use of tech, and moreso into those worship gatherings, then we need to (a) redefine and further emphasize what it means to be a gathering of worshippers, and (b) do a much better job of discipling one another towards healthy boundaries and margins, making sure that we don&#039;t miss that knowledge and understanding of this specific time and space towards technology, while sharing the implications of this change and what it needs to mean for us and those around us as we engage in this thing called church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teaching what is appropriate and not is a cultural and social function; this should be something that is done independent of the technology trends, and at the same time it should mind those trends and give wisdom where needed.</p>
<p>Simply saying that &#8220;because a pastor is preaching doesn&#8217;t mean you should be texting and tweeting&#8221; is not a remedy for the issue &#8211; that is, you are only addressing symptoms of a greater thought that most likely wasn&#8217;t taught. Namely: ethics (re: Proverbs and Ecc.).</p>
<p>It is only after teaching these ethical issues of social, technology, and culture that one can sit and make the rules that others suppose should be the case of this digitally native and very social generation. I&#8217;m sorry folks, but most of you commenting are more like myself where you sit as a late Gen X or early Gen Y-er; you aren&#8217;t native to this way of communitating and therefore your &#8220;rules&#8221; and &#8220;perceptions&#8221; will cause more problems than they solve.</p>
<p>To those peeved that people can text better than they can recite books and doctrine, do a better job discipling and then maybe you won&#8217;t have the tech issue to harp on as loudly. And yes, I very much practice what I preach &#8211; Gabe can totally vouch for that much.</p>
<p>Lastly, I too am of the opinion that &#8220;church&#8221; is what happens in-between the Sunday worship gatherings. That the active acts of creating community with people in and outside of the Christian faith should be what defines church. If this action is spilling over into our use of tech, and moreso into those worship gatherings, then we need to (a) redefine and further emphasize what it means to be a gathering of worshippers, and (b) do a much better job of discipling one another towards healthy boundaries and margins, making sure that we don&#8217;t miss that knowledge and understanding of this specific time and space towards technology, while sharing the implications of this change and what it needs to mean for us and those around us as we engage in this thing called church.</p>
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		<title>By: Micah Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.gabetaviano.com/technology/twitter-in-church/comment-page-1/#comment-3284</link>
		<dc:creator>Micah Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If used in the right manner, Twitter can enhance communication around a service. Some folks take it to an extreme though and then it becomes a distraction. 

On a side note, a project http://ParaTweet.com can help with live moderation and a full-screen display.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If used in the right manner, Twitter can enhance communication around a service. Some folks take it to an extreme though and then it becomes a distraction. </p>
<p>On a side note, a project <a href="http://ParaTweet.com" rel="nofollow">http://ParaTweet.com</a> can help with live moderation and a full-screen display.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter P</title>
		<link>http://www.gabetaviano.com/technology/twitter-in-church/comment-page-1/#comment-3280</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 05:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t stand it when people tweet from conferences they are in.

Apart from getting &#039;soundbyte theology&#039; their tweets often have no context and are fairly meaningless without one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t stand it when people tweet from conferences they are in.</p>
<p>Apart from getting &#8217;soundbyte theology&#8217; their tweets often have no context and are fairly meaningless without one!</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Hutto</title>
		<link>http://www.gabetaviano.com/technology/twitter-in-church/comment-page-1/#comment-3279</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ Hutto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me clarify that second sentence: I’m almost shocked at some of the “up on a pedastal” imagery of the “church” “God” and “the pastor” that I’m seeing in a lot of these comments.

I don&#039;t mean that we shouldn&#039;t worship God or have him lifted high in our lives. WE SHOULD. I just meant that it seems that we only put Him up on his &quot;worship pedestal&quot; on Sundays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me clarify that second sentence: I’m almost shocked at some of the “up on a pedastal” imagery of the “church” “God” and “the pastor” that I’m seeing in a lot of these comments.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean that we shouldn&#8217;t worship God or have him lifted high in our lives. WE SHOULD. I just meant that it seems that we only put Him up on his &#8220;worship pedestal&#8221; on Sundays.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Hutto</title>
		<link>http://www.gabetaviano.com/technology/twitter-in-church/comment-page-1/#comment-3278</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ Hutto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carrie, I&#039;m really the antagonist in this discussion today. Not because I m pro-twittering/texting during church, but because I&#039;m almost shocked at some of the &quot;up on a pedastal&quot; imagery of the &quot;church&quot; &quot;God&quot; and &quot;the pastor&quot; that I&#039;m seeing in a lot of these comments.

I might be deserving of a stoning here, but I just don&#039;t see where it&#039;s biblical to put so much emphasis on reverence to God (or the pastor) on SUNDAY mornings. Where is the reverence for God the other 6 days of the week?

For once I&#039;d love to see someone blog about or tweet about or share about how the weekly church gathering messed up their time with God. What do I mean by that? I mean that wouldn&#039;t it be amazing if we were so in tune with God that the very thing that we hold in such high regard and almost worship (Sunday church service) was looked at as a hindrance to actually LIVING and BEING the church?

Just for the record I&#039;M MOSTLY KIDDING. Mostly.

I think if we say this: &quot;I think we can all put our phones away for one hour a week to show respect to God and to our pastor and those around us, can we not?&quot; Or something similar, then we also have to ask ourselves if we can do the same EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carrie, I&#8217;m really the antagonist in this discussion today. Not because I m pro-twittering/texting during church, but because I&#8217;m almost shocked at some of the &#8220;up on a pedastal&#8221; imagery of the &#8220;church&#8221; &#8220;God&#8221; and &#8220;the pastor&#8221; that I&#8217;m seeing in a lot of these comments.</p>
<p>I might be deserving of a stoning here, but I just don&#8217;t see where it&#8217;s biblical to put so much emphasis on reverence to God (or the pastor) on SUNDAY mornings. Where is the reverence for God the other 6 days of the week?</p>
<p>For once I&#8217;d love to see someone blog about or tweet about or share about how the weekly church gathering messed up their time with God. What do I mean by that? I mean that wouldn&#8217;t it be amazing if we were so in tune with God that the very thing that we hold in such high regard and almost worship (Sunday church service) was looked at as a hindrance to actually LIVING and BEING the church?</p>
<p>Just for the record I&#8217;M MOSTLY KIDDING. Mostly.</p>
<p>I think if we say this: &#8220;I think we can all put our phones away for one hour a week to show respect to God and to our pastor and those around us, can we not?&#8221; Or something similar, then we also have to ask ourselves if we can do the same EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
		<link>http://www.gabetaviano.com/technology/twitter-in-church/comment-page-1/#comment-3277</link>
		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really am rather shocked that people (other than teens) actually think texting or tweeting during a church service is appropriate at all!  What has happened to our respect and reverence for God and His Word, not to mention respect for our pastor who is speaking???  

I think one point that you didn&#039;t mention, Gabe, is that texting or tweeting during a church service can be a distraction to those around us - to keep someone from hearing &amp; focusing on God&#039;s word because they are distracted by our choice to tweet during church is unacceptable.  

I think we can all put our phones away for one hour a week to show respect to God and to our pastor and those around us, can we not???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really am rather shocked that people (other than teens) actually think texting or tweeting during a church service is appropriate at all!  What has happened to our respect and reverence for God and His Word, not to mention respect for our pastor who is speaking???  </p>
<p>I think one point that you didn&#8217;t mention, Gabe, is that texting or tweeting during a church service can be a distraction to those around us &#8211; to keep someone from hearing &amp; focusing on God&#8217;s word because they are distracted by our choice to tweet during church is unacceptable.  </p>
<p>I think we can all put our phones away for one hour a week to show respect to God and to our pastor and those around us, can we not???</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Hutto</title>
		<link>http://www.gabetaviano.com/technology/twitter-in-church/comment-page-1/#comment-3275</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ Hutto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Since most people can’t name the 12 Disciples or find half the books of the Bible with out the table of contents, I think we probably do need to pay a little more attention to the speaker...&quot;

Or maybe even pick up the Bible sometime during the other 6 days of the week.

I&#039;m just saying.

I think we should be careful not to place too much emphasis on the &quot;word&quot; of the Lord coming from the speaker from on high once a week. And we should be careful to put MORE emphasis on the &quot;word&quot; of the Lord coming from the WORD of the Lord during the week.

Obviously, BOTH situations together work in synergy to create a good growth situation for the Believer. Balance is key.

But as far as twittering or texting in a gathering, we know when we should and shouldn&#039;t. A lot of that depends on the flavor of the actual congregation and the &quot;style&quot; of the worship gathering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Since most people can’t name the 12 Disciples or find half the books of the Bible with out the table of contents, I think we probably do need to pay a little more attention to the speaker&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Or maybe even pick up the Bible sometime during the other 6 days of the week.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just saying.</p>
<p>I think we should be careful not to place too much emphasis on the &#8220;word&#8221; of the Lord coming from the speaker from on high once a week. And we should be careful to put MORE emphasis on the &#8220;word&#8221; of the Lord coming from the WORD of the Lord during the week.</p>
<p>Obviously, BOTH situations together work in synergy to create a good growth situation for the Believer. Balance is key.</p>
<p>But as far as twittering or texting in a gathering, we know when we should and shouldn&#8217;t. A lot of that depends on the flavor of the actual congregation and the &#8220;style&#8221; of the worship gathering.</p>
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